"My grandmother used to say, 'If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans'."
A look into WarePhreak's thought processes
"My grandmother used to say, 'If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans'."
An evangelical manifesto
My initial reaction was to move on and ignore this completely. But I was intrigued at the same time that anyone could even believe this could be a valid viewpoint so here I am.I found the story in the prologue to be thought provoking. I don't think the leaders response is right either but it is not like they have done anything wrong in their response. I'm not sure the caretaker's response is right either but in some way it is good. I think it is this goodness that makes me want to ponder this issue further. At the same time part of me asks who are we that we should respond to God in this way.The introduction gives a second meaning to the recently popular question "What Would Jesus Do?" or WWJD. The author refers to a parody "What Would Judas Do?" and uses it as a springboard. While I have liked the original question, I have not liked the commercialization that we have done with it and I believe the author would agree. I got the impression that it was what we have made the church in this regard that the author would have us betray and that he believes Jesus would do the same if he came lived now.While part of me still opposes the idea as stated originally, I do think this would be an interesting and thought provoking read, but only for those who are strong in their faith and knowledge of what they believe.
In this work I make the claim that, in order to remain faithful to Christianity, we must be courageous enough to betray the bible (section 1), God (section 2) and the church (section 3). Why? Do I think that we must abandon them as redundant relics of a by-gone era? Do I think that they have served their purpose? Or do I feel that they prevent the world coming of age? By no means! Here I argue for a betrayal that remains faithful to these very words by helping us to re- discover the truly untamed, white-hot, life-transforming reality that they house.
Lancaster, Pa/ September 17, 2007 - The Constitution Party, thefastest-growing and largest third party based on voter registration(Ballot Access News ) will nominate a presidential candidate at itsNational Convention in Kansas City, MO, April 22-27, 2008.
"There is little appreciable difference between the two parties thatcontrol government. Voters seeking a return to limited, constitutionalgovernment would not have a choice in November if one of the so-called'front runners' receives the Republican nomination. With the exceptionof Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) - who has been ignored by his party -, we have'Tweedle Dee' and 'Tweedle Dum' candidates once again," Clymer added.
A recent Zogby poll (http://zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1332) showsAmericans are leaning toward third party options.
The selection of Kansas City for the nominating convention was made inlight of the Constitution Party's stated opposition to the proposedNAFTA Superhighway/Railway (http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=387) which is planned tostretch from Mexico to Canada through a 'SmartPort' (http://www.kcsmartport.com/ <http://www.kcsmartport.com/> ) based inKansas City. The Kansas City SmartPort website notes: ''Kansas Cityoffers the opportunity for sealed cargo... to travel toMexican...cities... streamlining shipments from Asia to cut ... laborcosts..."
"The United States does not need more cheap imports from China or morelongshoremen out of work", Clymer pointed out.
Among the convention speakers the Constitution Party anticipatesinviting is Party member and New York Times best-selling author JeromeCorsi, Ph.D. Dr. Corsi, who is a frequent speaker at Constitution Partyevents, would likely speak about his latest best-seller The Late, GreatUSA-the Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada. Corsi regularly speaks andwrites about the potentially devastating effects of the NAFTASuperhighway and the push to merge the sovereign nations of NorthAmerica into one.
The Constitution Party convention announcement comes in the wake of thenation's largest Hispanic rights group, La Raza, warning it may cancelits 2009 convention in Kansas City. The cancellation was threatenedbecause a Kansas City park board member belongs to the border-securitygroup The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps (http://minutemanhq.com/hq/).
"In keeping with the Constitution Party's stated support for secureborders and the dedicated work of the Minutemen (http://www.constitutionparty.com/news.php?aid=195) to enforce lawsignored by our government, we look forward to choosing a presidentialcandidate in Kansas City", Clymer stated.
Amnesty International policy change
Book Review Update
Haven't gotten far into it but the mixture of genres within each chapter makes what would be a boring topic an interesting read so far. The fiction side gives you something to relate to. The non-fiction piece helps raising the questions and forcing the thought processes.
It isn't an answer book which is good because it allows God and you to personalize the impact.
Hopefully that makes a good teaser. Will post more as I get further (maybe halfway) in.
Missing Post - Emergent Midwest Conference 2007
Tonight's was: You are what you do, not what you say.
Yesterday's was something like: You don't realize the affect you have on those around you.
Having one boy and one girl already as I had always hoped to have at least one of each, means I'm not really hoping for one or the other.
It might be nice to have a boy to balance out the family since we have a female dog, j/k!
Fortunately I still have my name lists from Corwin and Angeleah. Time to dust them off, review them and start posing suggestions for approval.
|You Are Incredibly Logical|
Move over Spock - you're the new master of logic
You think rationally, clearly, and quickly.
A seasoned problem solver, your mind is like a computer!
How Logical Are You?
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- Original comment by Mike:
- For example, honesty and truth-telling is an important moral principle, but there are times when the principle to love and care for those in need supercedes honesty. The example of someone hiding Jews from the Nazis is the prime example of this. Is it immoral to lie to the Nazis in order to protect those Jews, or are we in fact morally required to lie in order to carry out the command to love our neighbors and defend the oppressed?
- Base of my response to above
- I don't want to sound as a loveless bastard, but maybe there is more to this. What if we were meant to fight Nazi-ism directly but not lie and hide the Jews. Wouldn't God care and protect them according to His plan? Didn't God ask us to lay down our lives for Him? I know that I don't feel the full weight of that sitting here in my comfortable house with the many freedoms we have.
- Part of Julie's comment:
- interesting post - just a couple of thoughts...
on the hiding jews/fighting thing. why would it be out of God's plan to hide the Jews and lie? that strategy was used quite effectivly in the exodus story with the hebrew midwives lying to the egyption soldiers and we are told God blessed them for it. And when Rahab lied about hiding the men in jericho and she was placed in the line of David/Christ. when given the choice to save lives by lying or to save lives by killing - I would choose lying every time...
My response to comment above
- Part of the issue for me is to try and point out the issue prior to the critical point. Are we not wrong for not defending them prior to raching the point of hiding and covering for them? Should we not be active in defending them prior to this?
Not to minimize the struggle the Jews faced but I think a clearer example is in my arguments in the Pro-Choice / Pro-Life debate. I always enter this argument by claiming to be both pro-choice and pro-life, which always draws people to make me explain that. I explain that I am pro-life and thus against abortion. I also explain that I am pro-choice in that we choose (generally except rape) to participate in sex which by it's most basic nature is for procreation. To support this further, I sometimes even use the struggle's name. Why are they both Pro-? That points to me that there is truly two separate issues being lumped as one thus avoiding any negative connotation by being considered Con-.
Back to the Jewish example. History was never my strong suit, but if I remember correctly Jews were supposed to wear a David's star to mark them as Jewish. Did we as loving neighbors fight that fight to the fullest then? Or did we sit idly by, thus making the follow-up decision one that had to be made?
- Another part of the issue is that one sin is not lesser to another. It seems to me that we feel that lying is less of a sin so it becomes a choosing of the lesser of two evils. I feel we need to get away from that thinking as I feel it may be a major part of the decline in ethics and morality in our country/world. What would have happened had people not lied but stood with them ready to suffer the same fate out of love for their neighbor? I feel we need to be more like Jesus where we stand beside our neighbor and call for the one withiout sin to be first to cast a stone.
As I stated in my previous post, it is very easy for me to sit in my reclining chair and type this out. But do I live it out in my life each and every day? I don't pass judgement as I might have done thse same in that very situation. But rather I want to call us to look for a better way so we don't repeat history.
Maybe this sounds like rambling as I'm not sure how to close it, I hope not.
A Little Behind
Anyway, my Mom passed me a link to her worship leader's blog. He has done something a little different so I thought I would put a link here so others might go through and see it. Obviously, try to post a comment to follow his example as I looked and he hasn't gotten a whole lot of feedback.
And if you want to, let me know what you think so I could know whether to share more links like this in the future.
Hopefully, I will post a little more frequently.
Found this great source citation that I wanted to share.
And power is cool (page 1, "Evil Genius for Dummies," Cthulu, Dummies
Press, 12342 B.C.).
What's your religious philosophy?
You are a Believer
|You believe in God and your chosen religion.|
Whether you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu..
Your convictions are strong and unwavering.
You think your religion is the one true way, for everyone.
What's Your Religious Philosophy?
The Five Love Languages
Complete set of results
|Words of Affirmation:||9|
|Acts of Service:||6|
InformationUnhappiness in relationships, according to Dr. Gary Chapman, is often due to the fact that we speak different love languages. Sometimes we don't understand our partner's requirements, or even our own. We all have a "love tank" that needs to be filled in order for us to express love to others, but there are different means by which our tank can be filled, and there are different ways that we can express love to others.
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Ethics & Morality, cont.
For example, honesty and truth-telling is an important moral principle, but there are times when the principle to love and care for those in need supercedes honesty. The example of someone hiding Jews from the Nazis is the prime example of this. Is it immoral to lie to the Nazis in order to protect those Jews, or are we in fact morally required to lie in order to carry out the command to love our neighbors and defend the oppressed?
I don't want to sound as a loveless bastard, but maybe there is more to this. What if we were meant to fight Nazi-ism directly but not lie and hide the Jews. Wouldn't God care and protect them according to His plan? Didn't God ask us to lay down our lives for Him? I know that I don't feel the full weight of that sitting here in my comfortable house with the many freedoms we have.
That leads into something that I have realized about emergent or post-modernism. I have not seen much reference to the evil in the world. More later, I gotta get going to work.
I need to get the taxes done, but that is waiting for me to catch up on the finances. Working on a church plant. Need to get registered for another class. Learning PHP for the church website. Trying to stay ahead of my co-workers on .Net.
And in the midst of all this God is trying to change / grow me.
St Patrick's Day Limerick (late)
Attended a party and we had a limerick contest. This was what I banged out as my entry.
There was a man from Galilee
whose mission for the world to be
a much better place
meant he had to face
hard trials and die on a tree.
Not quite the normal humorous / silly ones you get.
Ethics and Morality
Here's the second article on this topic from this source. I haven't read this fully and it is getting late. So I will get back to it and finish reading it when I can concentrate better.
So your thoughts, how should the dictionary work?
Moving from Vampires to The Lord
And now another prominent figure has experienced a similar conversion. After writing twenty-five novels steeped in the occult, Anne Rice has returned to Catholicism, the faith of her childhood, and has promised that she will now "write only for the Lord." She's written a book, Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt, which I have not read, but reviewers say is a faithful account of the one she calls "the ultimate supernatural hero." Anne Rice, writing about Jesus instead of vampires? It's what Newsweek calls a "startling public turnaround"—and that's putting it mildly.
Ok, first things first, I am a little behind in reviewing the email transcripts of the broadcast commentaries.
I still haven't figured out what the postmodern movement is. I had thought it was Christian, but obviously not. So I need to look into this further.
I had not heard about this book or Ms. Rice's changes but am interested in getting a copy and reading it. Has anyone read or heard of it and willing to make some comments?
Middle Name: Aaron
Last Name: Wyncoop
Age on Next Birthday: 34
Favorite Color: Metallic Magenta
Place you want to live: Cleveland
Place you actually live: Plano
Habit: Locking Doors
Favorite Food: Lasagna
Favorite Animal: Penguin
Dream Job: Professional Game Player
There is an article "Why Home Churches are Filling Up" in the current (or recent) Time magazine that I heard about that relates to this discussion further. I haven't read the article yet, but overheard some discussion on the morning radio program I listen to.
a new beginning
Listened to the Shane CD Mike lent us. Need to find the poor in Yorkville and Plano. Need to stretch out to the others to grow them. Need to make changes.
Main Entry: di·a·tribe
Etymology: Latin diatriba, from Greek diatribE pastime, discourse, from diatribein to spend (time), wear away, from dia- + tribein to rub -- more at THROW
1 archaic : a prolonged discourse
2 : a bitter and abusive speech or writing
3 : ironical or satirical criticism
I was correct in the use of the word with definition 1. If you thought I was using it in either definition 2 (as my wife was) or 3, then I am sorry for any offense as I meant none (other than sometimes you all can be toooo intellectual).
I have done further research and feel that my initial looking at 1 Tim was a deadend. By the way in case you were wondering, this was meant to further flesh out in my own mind the position of women in ministry.
I have read the N. T. Wright paper that Julie referenced in women in ministry. I also read the diatribes that were posted in response to my original note. While it has solidified my recent conversion to support women in ministry, it has also made two other topics come up.
The first is simple and should be applied to all (male or female) while it was directed towards women originally. That is the 1 Cor 14:34 verse. We should speak up only to participate fully in the service. If we are not participating to the group, we should remain quiet and not be a distraction to the others.
The second is the whole set of verses regarding heads being covered or not covered in 1 Cor 11.I believe this to be setting a cultural standard for those that participate in worship. While I don't believe we should adopt that culture's standards we should have a standard that is relevant to our culture. According to the notes I have read it appears to be mandating that men be men and women be women, fully appreciating the gender we were created as. What that standard is for today, I don't know yet.
Repost: Tithing & Time
Thanks hon for alerting me to this issue.
Tithing & Time
Not complaining at all as I ended up with good numbers SS-0/PS-7 for only buying one square. Not a winning number, but it had good possibilities.
Roe v Wade
Basic idea to date:
1) Charge an abortionist with murder for hire.
2) Support charge by using cases where woman willingly chose to have sex.
a) No rape reported.
b) Woman's life was not in danger.
c) Was any protection used?
This is just something popping around in my head. Not even sure it could be done. We must love the women no matter their choice, but that doesn't mean we condone the choice. Also our society as a whole needs to get back to accepting the consequences of decisions we make. In this case, I mean that the decision to participate could result in the undesired result, hence choose abstinence.
"Don't Do, Be!", "No such thing as a volunteer, we don't donate time" - Need to change my thinking, heart and actions to support the paradigm expressed by these two key thoughts. The material wasn't new for the most part, but was articulated ideas that had been percolating in my mind. Not sure how else to explain it.
Also the need to attend the GlocalNet conference is more defined now. I believe this will help to enhance and further define the changes I am going to start making.
Healthy Reproducing Churches Conference
What is a Disciple? Not just Jesus in the American dream.
Church - Not having a mission, but being the mission.
Discipleship has become a lost art and ancillary. Thought: Could the resurface of this relate to the end of the church age that some have mentioned.
Dallas Willard in "Divine Conspiracy" states that discipleship is the elephant in the room.
If our church did not exist, would anyone miss it except our members?
When have I been strongest "in the zone" as a Christian?
Personal Zone Elements: Communion, Transparent Connection & Glocal Impact
Community Zone Elements: Mutiplication, Community Development, Nation Building
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Well it is bedtime for tonight, you should hear from me soon.
Let's try this again